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cruel bigot alert.

biascut has already posted about this, but did anyone else see this appalling tirade in today's Guardian magazine? I haven't read such hate-filled nastiness in a supposedly liberal paper since....another Julie. Gah. I mean, what is the point of that piece? It seems designed purely to belittle people for no real reason.

I say, give that page to Zoe Williams. She's funny, she's smart and she seems pretty nice from her column in Now magazine. Also, I love Things You Only Know If You're Not at Work, because tragically, I can identify with them all.

And, despite the bigotry evident in the magazine this week, I must confess I loved this piece in today's Guide section, in which small children rate classic rock, which includes the best description of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit" ever:

Sophie: It's making me think about doing bad things like putting snowballs down my sister's back.

Hee.

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melusina99
Jan. 31st, 2004 06:47 am (UTC)
I look back on them with affection and, yes, nostalgia. At least those women were women, and hadn't gone to gender reassignment clinics to have their breasts sliced off and a penis made out of their beer bellies.

What. the. fuck. So we have escaped from one bunch of bigoted twits telling us what it means to be a "real" woman only to run smack into this kind of crap? What exactly is her problem? And can it be helped with medication, preferably something used on large and cantankerous zoo animals?
alicetiara
Jan. 31st, 2004 08:44 am (UTC)
The thing I hate the most about transphobia (and there is a lot of it) is that people like this woman, who, you'd think, being a lesbian and growing up in a homophobic world, would realize that turning around and venting hatred and anger on people who she thinks are "disgusting" is, um, not okay? And just another form of oppression? How can she put herself in that position- the position of the hater, the bigot, the oppressor- and not *understand* that she's doing the exact same thing that straight people did to her?

If gender is so unimportant and socially constructed (which she *says*, but I certainly don't think she *believes*, because she certainly seems to have a stake in biological essentialism and an idea of "woman" at the very least), then why does she care how people present their gender? What difference does it make to her?

Ooh, this makes me *so* *mad*. I'm going to post that to my college mailing list. One of my very good friends is an ftm transitioning and he was just up here last weekend and we talked about trans issues all weekend long. I must say that when he started transitioning I was a little taken aback, but mostly because I had a hard time with changing my pronoun use and it made me uncomfortable. But that was *good*, because it made me realize how tied I was to a binary concept of gender, no matter how much I've talked or written about gender being fluid and constructed. So it helped me work through some of my issues around that.

I think the author of that article should maybe go talk to some transpeople, who get enough shit in their lives, before she opens her mouth again. If she can ever go out in the queer community in public again after writing that venom.
biascut
Jan. 31st, 2004 08:56 am (UTC)
Re:
I must say that when he started transitioning I was a little taken aback, but mostly because I had a hard time with changing my pronoun use and it made me uncomfortable. But that was *good*, because it made me realize how tied I was to a binary concept of gender, no matter how much I've talked or written about gender being fluid and constructed. So it helped me work through some of my issues around that.

I've had the same experience. I don't have any close friends who are trans, but I knew an mtf girl in the university's LGB society. We were just sitting around chatting one day, and I said something about the men's loos, which implied that that was where Lisa would go. She said indignantly, excuse me! I may have xy chromosomes, but i don't go in the men's loos!

I was horribly embarrassed, and apologised multiple, multiple times, although she's got thick enough skin that she doesn't get too hung up over accidental slips from well meaning if stupid people. But it was quite a realisation for me to realise how basic and unconscious that categorisation of gender is: I said "she" when I talked about her, but underneath it there was obviously still a bit of me that thinks of her as "him."

As for Julie Bindel - can she ever, ever have met or known a trans-person, ever? Could she still have written that if she knew the first thing about trans-people's experiences? I just can't get over how fucking ill-informed and tedious it is, and her conviction that she's writing something new and radical instead of same old same old.

Could you link us to your college mailing list, if it's online anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing people responses.
melusina99
Jan. 31st, 2004 09:13 am (UTC)
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If she can ever go out in the queer community in public again after writing that venom.

Go out in public at all, anywhere, that ignorant witch. I am feeling especially cranky today, because I have been reading Heinlein, whose ideas on women totally piss me off. And now, before I have wholly recovered, I encounter Miss Vagina Police. *steams*

As far as I am concerned, a girl who dresses like a girl is a girl. A girl who dresses like a boy is a girl (unless she demands she be called Jake or Bob or such), and any being willing to go through the necessary steps is a girl as well. And if they keep their knees together when wearing a skirt, they are a lady. Except for Bette Davis, who is a Woman, and the nasty piece of work who wrote that column, who is a Bitch.

*fumes some more*
crazysoph
Jan. 31st, 2004 09:06 am (UTC)
By and large, I am very enamoured of the Dutch attitudes: the casual slang for a trans is "a renovation" (omgebouwd), which strikes the right sense of playfulness along with the recognition. (And, in the name of preserving my somewhat frayed good humor, I'll skip that awful piece.)

But what I really wanna know is, where do you go on the internet to find whale sounds? I want!

Crazy(but quite secure enough in her womanhood not to be bothered by the mtf, or even the ftm... can't everyone just get along?)Soph
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