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I am still waiting for one of my smart conservative readers to explain to me why gay marriage should be illegal in this country without using an argument that boils down to "God hates fags."

Well said, Rob.

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biascut
Feb. 25th, 2004 04:01 am (UTC)
The problem is, they don't have to justify it, they just have to vote for it. This is one of those issues where reasoned arguments don't really work on either side: one side feels that it's fair whilst the other side feels that it's wrong, and very little exists to change either of their minds. All you can do is hope that enough of those who think it's wrong still vote against a constitutional amendment, on the grounds that the changes shouldn't be made to the constitution unless it's really REALLY important.

melusina99
Feb. 25th, 2004 04:05 am (UTC)
In 1958, Richard Loving, a white man, married Mildred Jeter, an African-American woman, in Washington, D.C. When they returned to their home in Virginia, they were arrested for violating Virginia's miscegenation laws. They pleaded guilty and were sentenced to one year in jail. The judge suspended the sentence for twenty-five years, on the condition that the couple leave the state of Virginia and not return together for the duration of that time.

During sentencing, the judge stated the following:

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.


Two years before my birth, and in my home state. Note the reference to the almighty and so on.

There isn't a reason that doesn't involve religion. I have heard that it will be detrimental to society, but so far, when I question people, they drag in things like bestiality, pedophilia, and so on. Which probably says more about the kind of crap they are hearing in church and on the street than anything.

As I have said before, gay marriage being against someone's religion is a completely different issue, and not a matter for the law. That would be like sending government swat teams to someone's house to kick their ass for not keeping Kosher or attending Mass.

Oooh, now I am all grumpy and venturing into morning traffic. Watch out, world.
newwaytowrite
Feb. 25th, 2004 05:45 pm (UTC)
A Canadian perspective
I feel that this is an issue that is political suicide. In Canada it is in the hands of our Supreme Court. Thus giving the political world an out so to speak.

I see that likely in the US with its dead constitution has a real fight ahead of them on this issue.

Quite frankly the people don't want gay marriage are a small vocal percentage and the pro gay marriage are about the same small percentage. For everyone else...who cares...they don't have feelings either way.

I mean personally I think the whole institution of marriage is a sham. I think that people should be concerned that people are in positive loving relationship with each other rather than saving a symbol of bondage.

A constitution that doesn't have a true realistic mechanism to flex with the passage is time to embrace change will crumble- much like a religion that doesn't go through a reformation. Change is life and if as a group people reject that premise human beings will cease having purpose.

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