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getting your tits out for the lads

Woman's Hour is discussing female bisexuality and I am very, very disappointed. Jenni Murray just asked a bi academic (THE ONLY SENSIBLE PERSON IN THAT STUDIO) about the terribly confusing question of how bisexuality "works". "Does it mean you have a long-distance relationship with a man and affairs with women or the other way round?" she asked. Then she just asked whether lesbionic antics between girls who also fancy boys are not purely for male titillation. Of course, the other guests is Lowri Turner, she who infamously announced that she doesn't think gay men could run the country because gay men live in some sort of sparkly bubble where they do nothing but go clubbing and have sex and entertain sad old bitches like Lowri with their witty camp wisecracks, and never do normal things like go to work and pay taxes and go to the supermarket and have families whom they love. She also just declared that lesbianism is "based on excluding men" as opposed to, say, fancying women. The whole tawdry disccusion seems to be based on the following preconceptions:

1. Bisexuals automatically cheat
2. Girls who have relationships with or just fancy girls do so because the intimacy of female friendships can be confused with sexual attraction
3. They also do it to titillate boys
4. Bisexual men are really just gay men in denial
5. You can't trust a bisexual because they can't possibly be satisfied with one gender at a time

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! These people are all so fucking stupid. The idea that some girls might fancy boys AND girls isn't all that complicated. The concept that this can take the form of long term relationships, random shagging, non-monogamous relationships or merely lust from afar - rather like the way heterosexual sexuality works - isn't hard to grasp. Why is this even a question?

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leedy
Feb. 23rd, 2006 11:22 am (UTC)
Oh for heaven's sake. Is the concept that "bisexual" != "always has to have a partner of each gender AT THE SAME TIME" all that difficult to grasp?

Sigh.
cangetmad
Feb. 23rd, 2006 11:29 am (UTC)
It's like straight women who have to have sex with a tall man and a short man AT THE SAME TIME because otherwise they CANNOT BE SATISFIED.

Seriously, I suppose because there's the whole "men and women are like different species" thing, people think that all bi people want men and women for totally different types of reasons, or something? Which is actually true for some people I know, but no more so than people who like, say, long term relationships as well as casual flings, no matter what the gender of the other person.
leedy
Feb. 23rd, 2006 11:36 am (UTC)
Which is actually true for some people I know, but no more so than people who like, say, long term relationships as well as casual flings, no matter what the gender of the other person.

Exactly. I mean, come to think of it, I've probably got different things out of all of my different relationships/flings/mad crushes, but that doesn't mean I want to go out with them all simultaneously. Not least because I'd be knackered....
biascut
Feb. 23rd, 2006 12:03 pm (UTC)
Yes - I've been known to ask people if having been attracted to both blondes and brunettes in the past means that you have to have one of each concurrently to be happy.
cangetmad
Feb. 23rd, 2006 12:15 pm (UTC)
It occurs to me that "hating lowri turner" might be as valid an interest as "hating lucy mangan". We could be a yet tighter clique of haters!
biascut
Feb. 23rd, 2006 12:19 pm (UTC)
Ahahah! I was just about to post the same thing, having noticed the "i hate lucy mangan" icon on my wallpaper. Let's do it!

I also added "gender isn't fucking genetic" as an lj interest yesterday, following a post by sinsense. Would you like to join me in that?
cangetmad
Feb. 23rd, 2006 12:46 pm (UTC)
Done and done! I enjoy being defined by rage.
stellanova
Feb. 23rd, 2006 12:49 pm (UTC)
Me too!
roseability_
Feb. 23rd, 2006 05:11 pm (UTC)
This is just ridiculous. I cannot believe sensible adults are asking these kinds of questions. Who do I complain to?
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