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jumper trouble

So I am knitting this jumper - well, sort of. I bought the book at the Knitting and Stitching show because I was bewitched by one of the cardigans in it, except when I got home I remembered that I actually have about a million cardigans and had in fact been intending to get a pattern for a jumper. And the jumper linked to above was the only one in the book I could knit with the lovely cashermino yarn I had purchased. Anyway, I am making it much shorter (and in a plain dark blue wool), and I am also adding some ribbing along the sides so it's closer fitting. And I'm not giving it a polo neck, because polo necks really do not suit me. But it's all coming along well. Except! I have almost reached the armholes at the back, and the pattern says something that has confused me: "dec one st at end of next and 3 foll 4th rows". What does the 4th bit mean? Does it mean that over the course of 12 rows I decrease a stich at the end of every 4th row? But surely that would be a bit uneven? Also, I am so ignorant of jumper knitting that I also need confirmation that when they say row, they mean the purl rows as well as the knit (this is in stocking stitch). Help me, people who are more used to knitting jumpers than I!

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leedy
Nov. 13th, 2006 01:17 pm (UTC)
>Does it mean that over the course of 12 rows I decrease a stich at the end of every 4th row?

I think so - do a row with the decrease, then do three rows, then a decreasey row, then three rows, etc. That's how I'd read it, anyway. And yes, definitely count purl rows as well as knit.
stellanova
Nov. 13th, 2006 01:22 pm (UTC)
I think so - do a row with the decrease, then do three rows, then a decreasey row, then three rows, etc.

But in that case, the only rows that are decreased will be the knit rows - won't it be a bit lop-sided? That's what confuses me!
leedy
Nov. 13th, 2006 01:27 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, that is a bit weird. I can't think of any other way of reading it, though.

Are you sure there aren't decreases at both ends of the row? Most patterns I've done have most of the decreasing on the right-side rows only.
glitzfrau
Nov. 13th, 2006 02:25 pm (UTC)
Yes, that's my experience too - that you dec one stitch at each end of the right-side row. (Though I usually dec one stitch in, rather than on the very end stitch, to make the edges neater.)

I'm knitting a Rowan pattern at the moment, and it's really incomprehensible! I find it astonishing how badly written commercial patterns from really big companies seem to be. Knitty is much better.
biascut
Nov. 13th, 2006 01:34 pm (UTC)
I think that's normal: pattern designers seem to be under the impression that you can only decrease on knit rows, and there is no possibility of decreasing on purl rows.

But yes, it does sound weird if it's not at both ends of the row. I'd also say that it sounds like an odd shaped jumper if it has you decreasing before you get to the armholes - most things increase towards the armholes. Hm... Maybe google the name of the pattern and see if you can find a bulletin board where people have knitted it and see whether they made any changes?
minniemoll
Nov. 13th, 2006 02:23 pm (UTC)
I've just checked my copy of the pattern, you've missed the 'each' out before the 'end' - you decrease at each end of the next row, and then the fifth, ninth and thirteenth rows. If you do your decreases a couple of stitches in from the end, it will be much easier to sew up - for the one on the right hand side, do a SSK decrease, for the left hand side, knit two together.
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