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humourless feminist alert!

So Christopher Hitchens believes women aren't funny". Apparently, we are too morbidly obsessed with our reproductive organs, or something. Like much of Hitchens's waffling, it doesn't really make much sense. Catherine Bennett has a rather good take-down, but one question remains unanswered: in a recent Guardian Profile, Hitchens listed Richmal Crompton's William books as one of his major inspirations. Do you think he actually knows that Crompton was a woman? Or could - horror of horrors - he not actually find the William books funny? I don't know which is worse!


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Dec. 7th, 2006 12:41 pm (UTC)
Apparently, we are too morbidly obsessed with our reproductive organs, or something.

Yeah, because men have practically no relationship with their reproductive organs, in general.

And, either he doesn't realise Crompton was a woman (most people don't, I find), or he thinks she's "the exception that proves the rule"*, much as most people who think women aren't tough enough for politics worship Thatcher.

*Which is a saying that always provokes an etymological rant from me. "Proves" as in "tests", people!
Dec. 7th, 2006 12:51 pm (UTC)
Huh. I have NEVER understood that phrase until now. Thanks!

Re. that article: OH THE RAAAAAAAAAGE! I haven't even finished it but my blood pressure is rising only a coulpe of paragraphs in. Also, it's anecdotal bullshit. My, um...Latest Conquest invariably mentions humour first whenever he's compiling lists of why he likes me, and I am certain that I am not the only one.
Dec. 7th, 2006 02:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, hubby likes that I make him laugh.

Hmm... re-reading the hypothetical list of qualities he proposes - "has a life of her own". That's not something that tends to get listed amongst the charms of a new male squeeze. Is that because men don't have lives of their own? I doubt it. Could it be that we expect men to have lives of their own so it's not worth mentioning?

So... by accepting his lists of attributes and abusing logic, I could say that the reason men don't mention their new honeys being funny is that they expect women to be funny, so it's not worth mentioning. Ha! Women are the funniest sex! So there.
Dec. 7th, 2006 12:51 pm (UTC)
Argh, I had to stop reading that because it was giving me THE FURY.
Dec. 7th, 2006 01:51 pm (UTC)
Ah, sure, to quote George Galloway (of whom I am no fan), Christopher Hitches is only a drink-soaked ex-Trotskyist Popinjay. His hands are shaking and he's badly in need of another drink.


He's not worth getting angry over.
Dec. 7th, 2006 02:31 pm (UTC)
Bother! I went down my friends list rather than up, and commented on yiskah's post first!

But (without having read the article because, better things to do with my time), I think most of it comes down to who's granted the right to hold people's attention. In a mixed sex group, men are more likely to be granted the right to be funny, and the group turns their attention to them. Quite often, when I succeed in making a group laugh, there'll be an element of surprise if there are new people there, because they won't be expecting a joke to come from a woman. And I do notice and actively avoid social situations where there's a significant difference in the way the men and the women behave.

(Actually, I even think you and I and Glitz do it a little bit with Patsington, though I think in Patsington's case it's less about maleness than it is about him doing the Silent Bob thing, so that we all tend to shut up and pay him attention when he does speak!)

Though, as a C***y, I suspect you've never come across this before... :)
Dec. 7th, 2006 03:46 pm (UTC)
Continuing to read it, just because.

Got to this bit: "less expectation of a reward...when they got to the joke's punch line, they were more pleased about it..."...
Slower to get it, ...

He can't read! The report, or at least the bit he quoted, doesn't say women were slower to get the joke. It looks to me like it says they're more likely to find it funny. Idiot.
Dec. 7th, 2006 05:47 pm (UTC)
Most of them, though, when you come to review the situation, are hefty or dykey or Jewish, or some combo of the three.

Dec. 7th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, not only is he a sexist, but he's a homophobic anti-semite too! What a catch.
Dec. 7th, 2006 07:35 pm (UTC)
I know I want him. FOR DOGMEAT.
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